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Service Name: Gruss Betting Assistant
Website: http://www.gruss1-software.co.uk/
My review of Gruss in the first article in this series: Betting On Autopilot: Gruss Betting Assistant, leads me nicely onto a look at the different ways it will allow you to place your bets at Betfair.
Currently a large majority of bets are placed at Betfair SP, although more and more
evidence is suggesting that the Betfair SP prices are inferior to what is on offer prior to
the race. This is being backed up by a number of sources, not least the Big Mike Betting
service (which we talk about later on in this issue), Double The Odds and the Dazzler
service from Tip Exchange.
Betfair SP may be handy and is a good barometer to judge a service, but is it always
the most effective method for maximum profits?
Here is what just a few services that are affected by this have had to say on the
matter:
Double The Odds
As a general rule, the really big priced selections (over 30.0) are best left until just
before the off. The others are generally best taken early. A good example of this was
the bet, Herbert Crescent, which was available in the morning at 15.0 or more yet
opened with the bookmakers at 10 and hit 11-2 before easing back to 7/1 SP.
This is obviously a general rule and there is nothing as frustrating as waiting until the
off and finding a really big price has plunged into 10/1 – thankfully it doesn’t happen
often.
With regard to the way we personally bet the selections we take each selection on its
merits and decide what to do based on that. In its most simple form if a top jockey
such as Dettori or AP is on, we like to get in as early as possible because of the
following they have – same with some of the top trainers or with yards that are known
to put horses out to be punted. It’s usually not that clear cut however and the advice
below is probably as near a generalisation as we could get.
Big Mike Betting (From an email on the 14th July)
Hughies – Major change today. Basically we are being completely shafted by using
Betfair SP in a way like Ladbrokes are using the SP Bookmakers to drive down the price
just before the race.
In effect – and there has been a good discussion in `the Learning Zone` on the Forum
where there are some interesting theories. My belief is that a few minutes before the
off a price is taken on the shorties, and then laid off at betfair SP. Invariably the
price taken is matched in full but 4/5 ticks below the price taken!
Now is this the work of genuine layers or indeed somebody close to Betfair? Whoever it
is will be making a guaranteed stack every race where there are shortuns. It’s a nice
little business if you can get it, as the race hasnt started before they are matched.
Try it yourself just for a few quid. Bet £33 on a horse say at 1.31 just before the
race. Lay at Betfair SP £10 and see the results. Just for comparison mind and proof for
yourself that this stunt is indeed going on.
Big Mike then sent a follow-up the next day (15th)…
Again some remarkable figures seen in the Betfair price 5 minutes before the off (on
short uns) v Betfair SP. The most remarkable came in the first race where the fav was
1.12 pre race (to big money) and the Betfair SP was…………1.06. Laughable.
So clearly with a number of services that we back at Betfair SP we need to adopt a
different procedure, and the best way to do this is with a bot. Gruss will do all of this
for you and at only £6 a month will no doubt be excellent value for money in terms of
the better prices you will achieve (hopefully) through this approach.
We are going to look at how to automate the placing of bets using Gruss for the
Dazzler, Double the Odds & Big Mike Betting’s Hughies. The latter service is perhaps
the most complex to follow and we have put together a standalone article in reference
to this later on.
Firstly let’s look at Dazzler and automating his bets.
Dazzler Strategy
There has been some discussion on the forum quite rightly about the different prices
being quoted on Dazzlers place bets and those of Betfair SP. Once again, it appears we
are seeing the pre-race prices on offer appearing substantially better than Betfair SP.
This appears to be exacerbated in the place market particularly with the lack of
liquidity sometimes having an impact.
Tip Exchange was in existence prior to the emergence of Betfair SP and thus has long
had its own methods to calculate likely Betfair prices. They currently use the following
method as detailed by Ian from Tip Exchange…
“We have been given access to Betfair’s Market Data scripts which we query every five
minutes to get the latest prices for upcoming races. The times we query data are at
the following minutes past each hour 4,9,14,19,24,29,34,39,44,49,54,59.
This system was introduced before Betfair SP existed with the aim to record a price
that was genuinely available to all users within the last ten minutes before the race.
To try and match the price that we record I suggest that you place your bets about 10
minutes before the scheduled start of the race. It is not a bad idea to place half at say
4 minutes past, and the other half at 9 minutes past for a race that starts at 10 past
the hour. In theory you should get the same average that we do.”
Therefore, it would appear we need to instruct our bot to take place odds at different
times before a race. To match the Dazzler odds exactly, half the stake should be taken
6 minutes before the off, and the other half at 1 minute before the off.
Double The Odds Strategy
Double The Odds suggest a mixed strategy which does depend upon the pricing of each
selection. Relatively shorter priced selections (under 30.0) are recommended to be
placed early on in the day, so this maybe a simple case of placing a price request at
certain odds, and monitoring to see if matched.
DTO also recommend a case by case analysis of each bet depending upon the
yard/trainer/jockey and any other factors that could have a bearing on a price
shortening or drifting. You may therefore want to juggle your strategy as to when to
take a price depending on each horse.
We will at times though still need to request odds at different times of the day,
therefore we need to instruct Gruss to input our bet at a set time prior to the race for
DTO.
Conditional Function
The best way to request a bet be matched at a certain timing with Gruss, is by using
the conditional function which allows you to specify a timing trigger.
This can be setup by simply clicking the Red C next to any horses name once you have
loaded up a betting market (see image below).

By clicking this you are presented with a number of options to help trigger your bet.
For example you can back Marine Spirit if his price is back price is greater than a set
limit (in the image below we have specified if greater than or equal to 2.0)

Most specifically our interest here is in the trigger time of a bet where we can request
that a bet be placed at a set time. This can be activated by setting the ‘Trigger After’
time to a set period before the race.

In the above example we are instructing Gruss to trigger a bet on this particular horse
after 15:22 and 11 seconds. You can adjust this figure to represent the time you wish
for the bet to be triggered.
You can then apply this function to any number of bets and choose your staking, tick
offset, prices to be matched at and a number of other features.
This is a very easy and simple way to begin placing bets using the Gruss bot. Do bear in
mind you will need to keep your computer on, and Gruss operating and connected to
the Internet, as long as you have active bets requested.
In the next instalment we are going to look at using Gruss to place Big Mike Betting’s new Turbo Hughie
method.
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